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Desmond Tutu was the first black South African Anglican Archbishop of Cape Town, South Africa, and is currently Archbishop Emeritus. He became known worldwide during the 1980s as a key opponent of apartheid and was the chair of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, promoting restorative and reconciliatory rather than retributive justice for human rights violations perpetuated during the apartheid era and in the violence following its abolition. In 1984, Tutu became the second South African awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. He has also been awarded the Albert Schweitzer Prize for Humanitarianism, the Gandhi Peace Prize in 2005, and the American Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2009. Archbishop Tutu and his wife, Leah, are the parents of four, and in 1998 they co-founded the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre “to encourage and inspire future generations to commit themselves for world peace.” He has also authored several books of his speeches and sayings, including The Rainbow People of God: The Making of a Peaceful Revolution. He resides in Cape Town and still tirelessly campaigns for human rights and peace through nonviolence worldwide. (

the interview

It was a dream come true for me to interview a Nobel Peace Prize winner, but that it was Desmond Tutu was even more special because of an article I’d read about him that helped change my life and led to another interview that is in the book. His accomplishments speak for themselves, but when I heard from Linda Biehl at the Amy Biehl Foundation (see the “New Directions” section of the book and Linda Biehl’s page here on the website) just how kind and wise he is and how much he personally helped them, I knew he was someone I wanted to include in the project. Given the Archbishop’s schedule, I was extremely lucky and grateful to secure an interview. He just happened to have a cancellation, otherwise I would have had to wait at least a year. Staying up until 3:30 a.m. to speak with him was one of the easiest things I’ve ever done; I couldn’t wait to hear his greatest epiphany. I was expecting a remarkable story about a particular moment in his incredible life. But, as happened so many times in the course of my interviews, my expectations were surpassed in surprising ways. His epiphany underlies his center’s vision: “A world committed to peace. A world in which everyone lives together as family, and everyone is loved, heard, cared for and unique. A world in which everyone matters, and the essential good in everyone is manifested.”

Behind the Scenes of Desmond Tutu’s Interview